November 18, 2019 — Meeting Minutes
CITY PLAN COMMISSION/ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD COUNCIL CHAMBERS – CITY HALL MONDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 2019 1730 (05:30 PM)
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Acting Chair, Carolyn Gaidis at 1730.
ROLL CALL
Acting Chair Carolyn Gaidis, Interim City Manager Janet Watson, Aldermanic Representative Richard Lintz, Robert Denlow, and George Hettich answered roll call.
Absent: Chairman Steve Lichtenfeld ALSO IN ATTENDANCE
Stephanie Karr, City Attorney Susan M. Istenes, AIPC, Planning Director Scott Dedert, Planner
CHAIRMAN REQUESTS
Acting Chair Gaidis asked that all cell phones be turned off and that conversations take place outside the meeting room.
Acting Chair Gaidis also asks that anyone who speaks please spell out their last name.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES ACTING CHAIR GAIDIS – On page 3, I was asking about pervious materials and what other materials, if any, were considered.
RICHARD LINTZ – MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 04, 2019 WITH CAROLYN’S ADDITION.
JANET WATSON – SECOND
BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVES THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 04, 2019.
2 CONCEPTUAL REVIEW
217 SOUTH BRENTWOOD BOULEVARD – CONCEPTUAL REVIEW
Director Susan M. Istenes summarizes the following staff report: “The 116,280 square-foot site is located in Shaw Park, just east of the intersection between South Brentwood Boulevard and Bonhomme Avenue. The site is currently made up of an ice rink and associated building. Adjacent land uses include tennis courts and an outdoor pool.
The proposed project consists of the demolition of the existing ice rink and building and the construction of a new 13,365 square-foot, 1-story All-Season Recreation Complex and an NHL-regulation size ice rink with a roof. The proposed building will be able to support space for both the proposed ice rink and its related uses such as: offices, party room, restrooms, locker rooms, kitchen, and warming area. The building will be constructed of brick veneer, wood-grain looking metal panels and the windows will be thermal storefront style, colored in clear anodized (light shade of gray).
There is currently an existing drop-off circle located at intersection of South Brentwood Boulevard and Bonhomme Avenue. The proposed new drop-off area will be extended further south and widened along Brentwood Boulevard. The intent of the new drop-off area is to serve the ice rink, tennis courts, and the pool. The extension and widening of the drop-off area will be more ADA accessible, have a bypass lane and 4 drop off stalls.
The project will be developed as an accessory to the existing park and will require approval from the Plan Commission and the Architectural Review Board. The property has a zoning designation of R-2 Single Family Dwelling District.
The project will be reviewed and is subject to comments by the Planning, Public Works, and Fire Departments, and the City’s contracted consultants for landscaping, architecture, stormwater management, traffic and parking. Staff recommends that the Plan Commission/Architectural Review Board consider the proposal and provide input. This is conceptual review only and therefore any comments made in this report or at the meeting, either by the applicant, staff, or the Board/Commission members, are not binding.”
PATTY DEFORREST (PD) – Director of Parks and Recreation CHRIS CHIODINI (CC) – Architect STEVE MUELLER (SM) – Architect
CC – Addresses the Board and talks about what is existing and what is proposed for the space while referring to a slideshow. Notes they are not touching century plaza and that they are creating a path to the building that will be visible up to the front door from the new drop off area.
RICHARD LINTZ – The sidewalk around the drop off is flat and the walk way going up along the side is what ramps up, correct?
CC – Yes.
ROBERT DENLOW – What kind of material would it be if the rink was covered?
3 CC – It is a hard roof. We’ve got sloping edges on the canopy with a wood look – it is a metal material with a grain look. We’re a good 30ft. in the air with this.
ROBERT DENLOW – What does the canopy offer?
CC – The goal of this project is to make this an all-season area so in the summer it will be like a rec center without walls. In working with Steinburg, they missed a lot of the season last year due to rain. There were a lot of rescheduled hockey games/practices.
ROBERT DENLOW – Are there any other examples of a covered ice rink in St. Louis?
CC – There were a couple but they have closed.
GEORGE HETTICH – What is the height clearance?
CC – 24 feet.
GEORGE HETTICH – 24 feet from the ice rink, so there are some limitations to the types of activities that could take place then.
CC – I think basketball is typically 20 feet.
GEORGE HETTICH – So soccer and lacrosse would be excluded?
CC – They can be included, there would be rules set in place on how to play off the roof. So, what we are looking at is the light wood look with light columns. Speaks about the site more and the exterior of the site.
ACTING CHAIR GAIDIS – IS THE FIRE PIT TOWARDS THE CORNER, ON THE NORTH SIDE, MORE FOR THE RINK?
CC – They will both be towards the rink but yes that is lower down more towards the rink.
JANET WATSON – Asks about parking and drop off.
CC – You will be able to see the kids going in on the north walk and there are two lanes so there is a drop off and a bypass lane.
ACTING CHAIR GAIDIS – Where do people park to use the park?
CC – In the parking garages where they park now. We’ve had that conversation on how we get that out to everyone and the website seems to be the best way.
ROBERT DENLOW – So if I drop my kids off then I go park in a parking garage?
PD – Clayton on the Park is a shared City garage. That is where they currently park. In the winter I don’t see it being an issue but the summer we will have to coordinate with activities taking place at the same time.
GEORGE HETTICH – Is the current cover 120x540? What about the roof material?
SM – 120 x ~210-220.
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CC – We have talked about solar panels.
ROBERT DENLOW – Do you use this building to access the pool?
CC – No. This is the elevation without the canopy – it will be a redish color.
RICHARD LINTZ – So the roof is in long board like panels?
CC – No we are doing it in a staggered pattern that will look like planks.
RICHARD LINTZ – Are you thinking that bleached color?
SM – Yes.
PUBLIC COMMENT
RICH BLISS WESTMORELAND – Chris used the word elegant. I would not elegant. Most of the buildings in Clayton are colonial, City Hall, the Police Station, the pool, tennis courts, the south and north shelter. This is not up to the normal standards that Clayton has subscribed to. I think these windows are not attractive and I think we should keep with the traditional architecture throughout Shaw Park and throughout Clayton.
ACTING CHAIR GAIDIS – As you all know this is conceptual so we will see this project again, any more comments from the audience or Board… Ok then, we will see you when you come back.
BOARD DOES NOT VOTE ON CONCEPTUAL REVIEW ACTING CHAIR CAROLYN GAIDIS RECUSES HERSELF BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS A NONBLOOD RELATIVE THAT IS STILL A RELATIVE.
RICHARD LINTZ ACTING CHAIR FOR THIS ITEM.
NEW BUSINESS
7453 SOMERSET AVENUE – ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD – EXTERIOR ALTERATION/RENOVATION
Director Susan M. Istenes summarizes the following staff report: “The subject property is located on the northeast side of the intersection between Clayton Road and Somerset Avenue. The property has a zoning designation of R-2 Single Family Dwelling District. The project has been completed and consisted of replacing the existing stacked stone wall with a two-tiered system that ranges from 20-inches to 23-inches in height and 16-feet 5-inches to 22-feet in length.
Section 405.1900 of the Zoning Regulations states:
Front yard masonry garden walls, planting boxes, retaining walls, plantings or ornamental or decorative fences may be erected as part of new construction, up to four (4) feet above the grade level in the front yard, provided such structure is an integral part of the architectural feature of the principal structure, is in compliance with sight distance standards and is approved by the Architectural Review Board.
5 The Architectural Review Board prefers the use of masonry walls in front yards; however, modular block walls are allowed if they include three different block sizes, a varying color pattern and tumbled edges. The design and material of the retaining wall features a varying color pallet and differentiated stones near the corners. However, the edges of the blocks are straight. Multiple nearby homes have front yard retaining walls constructed similar to this design and staff is of the opinion that the proposed design and materials of the wall are consistent with the neighborhood character.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.”
STACY HOFFMAN (SH) – Homeowner ROB HARPER (RH) – Homeowner’s partner
SH – Addresses the Board with nothing to add.
RH – I have looked at several properties that have one size only and straight edge – we used varying sizes and color.
RICHARD LINTZ – I think it looks really good and that
JANET WATSON – MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.
ROBERT DENLOW – SECOND
BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVES ACTING CHAIR GAIDIS REJOINS
922 AUDUBON DRIVE – ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD – EXTERIOR ALTERATION/RENOVATION
Director Susan M. Istenes summarizes the following staff report: “The 8,800-square-foot site is located on the east side of Audubon Drive and has a zoning designation of R-2 Single-Family Dwelling District. The property currently contains an attached garage and open porch that will be converted to usable space. The applicant was recently approved to build a new detached garage. On the northern half, which includes the front, side, and rear of the single-family residence, the applicant intends to convert the attached garage and open porch into an enclosed media room.
Currently, the single-family residence has an attached garage and the front of the home has an open porch that has an overhang with brick pillars. With this project, the applicant proposes to match the building materials of the existing single-family residence. The new enclosed space will require new brick, a below grade concrete footing, as well as the replacement and addition of windows. The applicant is also proposing to paint the wood trim and add a glass door on the north side of the structure. The existing garage door will be removed and replaced with a new brick wall.
The project as proposed is in conformance with the requirements of the R-2 Single Family Dwelling District and the Architectural Review Guidelines. Staff is of the opinion that the design and materials of the enclosed media room are compatible with the home.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.”
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Applicant not present.
RICHARD LINTZ – MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
ROBERT DENLOW – SECOND
BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTES TO TABLE
227 SOUTH CENTRAL AVENUE – PLAN COMMISSION - SUBDIVISION PLAT
Director Susan M. Istenes summarizes the following staff report: “The subject property is 15,183 square feet and is located on South Central Avenue between Bonhomme Avenue and Shaw Park Drive. In June of 2015, the City released a Request for Proposal (RFP) for development of this site. On February 20, 2018, the Plan Commission and Architectural Review Board reviewed a conceptual review application for a proposed mixed-use development that included a hotel. A year later, this property was rezoned to Planned Unit Development, which lists a hotel as a permitted use. As part of the Board of Alderman approval, the applicant was required to apply for a major subdivision to dedicate right-of-way to the City.
There are two dedications proposed on the plat. One dedication is shown as 6.19-feet of dedicated right-of-way along South Central Avenue using hatch-marks. This dedication is for sidewalk expansion. The second dedication is to increase the width of the alley, which will move the property line east by 4-feet. However, the hatch-marks are missing. These two right-of-way dedications will reduce the lot’s total to 14,770 square feet or 0.3391 acres.
In considering and acting upon plats and other applicable plans, staff and the Plan Commission shall take the following objectives into consideration:
1. Compatibility of lot size and density. 2. Creation of a lot which provides adequate dimensions to construct improvements of similar size and nature to the surrounding area. 3. Creation of a lot which is in compliance with the area and frontage requirements (no flag lots) as specified in the Zoning Ordinance and provides for an orderly pattern of development. 4. Promotion of a creative approach to the use of land and related physical facilities resulting in better site layout and development. 5. Preservation and enhancement of desirable site characteristics such as natural topography, vegetation and geologic features and the prevention of soil erosion. 6. Elimination of incompatible land configurations. 7. Consistency with good planning practices. 8. Compliance with all applicable codes, ordinances and standards.
Staff is of the opinion that the lot is consistent with the lots located in the immediate area with regard to size, frontage and arrangement.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A MYLAR FOR THE APPROPRIATE CITY OF CLAYTON SIGNATURE PER THE
SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AFTER BOARD OF ALDERMEN APPROVAL.
2. THAT THE APPLICANT FILES THE PLAT WITH THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY RECORDER OF DEEDS OFFICE AND
SUBMIT PROOF OF FILING TO THE CITY WITHIN 30 DAYS OF BOARD OF ALDERMEN APPROVAL.”
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Applicant not present.
RICHARD LINTZ – We should approve this, it is a requirement of the Board of Aldermen that was essentially already approved this is just a formality.
STEPHANIE KARR SAYS THAT IT IS FINE.
RICHARD LINTZ – MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
ROBERT DENLOW – SECOND
BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTES TO APPROVE.
HAVING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 18:25.
_______________________________ Recording Secretary