September 7, 2021 — Meeting Minutes
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MINUTES CITY PLAN COMMISSION/ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD SEPTEMBER 7, 2021 ZOOM MEETING
The City Plan Commission/Architectural Review Board of the City of Clayton, Missouri, met on the above date at 5:30 p.m. via a ZOOM meeting. Upon roll call, the following responded:
Present: Steve Lichtenfeld, Chairman David Gipson, City Manager Ira Berkowitz, Aldermanic Representative Bob Denlow Helen DiFate George Hettich Carolyn Gaidis
Also in Attendance:
Annisa Kumerow, Principal Planner Stephanie Karr, City Attorney
Steve Lichtenfeld, Chairman welcomed everyone to the meeting. MINUTES The minutes of August 2, 2021 were approved unanimously. The minutes of August 16, 2021 were approved unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS 7600 WYDOWN BOULEVARD – ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW-OUTDOOR AWNING
Annisa Kumerow summarized the staff report. Rick Gangloff, Lawrence Fabric & Metal Structure, was present. Pepe Kehm, Owner, was present. Steve Lichtenfeld asked if the applicant understood the staff conditions. Pepe Kehm – agreed with the three staff conditions that were read into the record.
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Helen DiFate – questioned the drainage detail, is there something that connects existing gutter with new canopy? Detail doesn’t show how they are connected. Rick Gangloff – would prefer not to relocate gutter. Hoping to go over gutter with 2- 2.5 inches between so rafter placed over existing gutter rather than abutting it. No other comments from Plan Commission. Hearing no further questions or comments from the Commission and hearing no comments from the audience, Carolyn Gaidis moved to approve as submitted per staff’s recommendations; Ira Berkowitz seconded the motion, the motion was unanimously approved by the Commission. 12 TUSCANY PARK – ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD – ROOFTOP SOLAR PANELS Annisa Kumerow summarized the staff report. Jeanitta Perkins, Straight Up Solar, was present.
Jeanitta Perkins agreed to staff conditions.
No comments from Plan Commission. Hearing no further questions or comments from the Board and hearing no comments from the audience, Carolyn Gaidis, moved to approve as submitted per staff’s recommendation; Ira Berkowitz seconded the motion, the motion was unanimously approved by the Commission. 7701 FORSYTH BOULEVARD – ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD – EXTERIOR ALTERATION Annisa Kumerow summarized the staff report. Mike Brady, St. Louis Club Lena Gunn, Property Manager Mike Brady summarized the reasons for the request. Steve Lichtenfeld – noted the existing open vista along Forsyth Boulevard will be closed in and it will feel like 10-foot walls. However, it could help the club by providing services to its members and activating that prime open space along Forsyth Boulevard. Questioned if a future covering/roof would be considered. Mike Brady – at this point we are not considering a roof. Carolyn Gaidis – asked about the plant material and size. Mike Brady – noted highlander boxwoods, 7 feet tall, blue atlas cedars, 10 feet tall and spire arborvitaes. Predominant height is 7-foot range. Carolyn Gaidis – expressed her disappointment about lack of native plantings. Bob Denlow – liked idea of using space to bring more people outside, but also noted screening is a bit of a takeaway. Discussion about a future kitchen in that area.
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Carolyn Gaidis – questioned service station contents. Mike Brady – noted tables, tray stands, ice bin, storage areas will be located inside on first floor and a covered area for beverages. Most will be bottled beverages. George Hettich – supports request. Helen DiFate – noted plantings are out of scale. Lowest from pedestrian point of view is 10 foot 2 inches and within eating area height is 7 foot 6 inches. Reducing height of plantings could be accomplished both for the privacy for eating and allowing pedestrians to see that that there were people in the area, and it would add life. The current design, you would never know people are using the outside area. Would like to see scale reduced to more pedestrian scale. Current design does not create ambiance we would like to see. Ira Berkowitz – doesn’t understand the need for the extreme privacy. Likes the idea of substituting existing plants for native plants. Scott Pozzo, Choteau Development Group – Japanese Hollies as planted are 30 inches, there is some spacing between each plant and there is visible pass-through space with 8-9 inch spacing between the planter boxes. Doesn’t think it forms a solid wall. Mike Brady – confirmed he understood the conditions that had been read into the record. Bob Denlow – asked when it would be open, ready for Fall? Steve Lichtenfeld – noted they would need an outdoor dining permit before they could use the space. Annisa Kumerow - noted outdoor dining permit is currently under review. Carolyn Gaidis – noted root zone is very tight and the plants won’t get to their mature height under the conditions. Steve Lichtenfeld – noted the “wall effect” is created by the height of the planters and the existing concrete wall. Asked if plants will be getting broader and could they be trimmed to maintain the voids we currently see? Mike Brady – noted they have a professional landscape contractor to maintain the plants. Lena Gunn – suggested they could write into their contract with the landscape contractor to maintain the voids. Stephanie Karr – suggested making the maintenance/void concern a condition of approval. David Gipson – noted staff can inspect plants and make sure spacing is maintained at the time of issuance of outdoor dining permit.
Hearing no further questions or comments from the Board and hearing no comments from the audience, Carolyn Gaidis, made a motion to approve with staff’s two recommendations and added a third that requires the plants to be maintained so that the existing gaps as shown on plan are maintained. Ira Berkowitz seconded the motion; the motion was unanimously approved by the Commission.
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8275 CLAYTON ROAD – ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW – SIGNAGE (2 SIGNS) Annisa Kumerow summarized the staff report. Patty DeForrest, Parks and Recreation Director for the City of Clayton, was present. Patty DeForrest – described the two signs that were before the Commission for consideration. Steve Lichtenfeld – questioned different names on the two signs. Patty DeForrest – noted the entire Park is known as Anderson Park and the dog park is located within Anderson Park. Steve Lichtenfeld – finds signs attractive and agrees with staff report. Carolyn Gaidis – likes signs and has no comments. Bob Denlow – likes signs. George Hettich – no comments. Helen DiFate –indicated the applicant needed to correct spelling of word “possible” on Clayton Dog Park sign, otherwise looks great. David Gipson – no concerns. Ira Berkowitz was no longer present at the meeting. Helen Lee, Tao Lee Designer – indicated she was hired to design signs 5 years ago and appreciates the Board’s support. Patty DeForrest – acknowledged acceptance of staff recommendation. Hearing no further questions or comments from the Board and hearing and no comments from the audience, Carolyn Gaidis, made a motion to approve the monument “Anderson Park” sign. George Hettich seconded the motion; the motion was unanimously approved by the Commission. Hearing no further questions or comments from the Board and hearing no comments from the audience, Carolyn Gaidis made to approve the “Clayton Dog Park” sign with staff recommendation. George Hettich seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by the Commission. Selection of topics for future presentation by Commission members to Commission Annisa Kumerow – noted we will likely have a topic on the next agenda because it will be a lighter agenda. Bob Denlow – asked what to do? Steve Lichtenfeld – instructed the Commission to review the topic assigned, present it to the Commission and lead a discussion with the entire group on the topic in order to facilitate understanding of the code section. Carolyn Gaidis volunteered to be the first to present.
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Upcoming October 18 meeting Steve Lichtenfeld – noted the item on the agenda for discussion regarding the regularly scheduled October 18 meeting. Annisa Kumerow – noted staff is proposing to move the meeting to October 19 due to staff conflicts, provided the commission was okay with that change Commission moved the October 18th meeting to October 19.
Meeting adjourned at 18:32 (6:32 p.m.).