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October 19, 2015 — Meeting Minutes
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Mr. Van Zant asked if they could be placed on the November 2nd agenda.
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Susan Istenes indicated that it would be difficult as there are already 7 items on that agenda and a couple of them controversial. She informed the applicants that they can go ahead and pull permits for interior work.
Being no further questions or comments, Ron Reim made a motion to table this application to give the applicant an opportunity to revise the drawings to accurately reflect their proposal. Mark Winings asked if there was anything else to discuss regarding this proposal; for example the wood. No Board member expressed concern or an objection to the use of the wood they are proposing. The motion was seconded by Craig Owens and unanimously approved by the Board.
Craig Owens asked the applicant to provide examples, photos, etc. next time so the members are clear on what’s being requested.
CITY BUSINESS – STORM WATER PRESENTATION BY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
Spencer Litteken, the City’s Civil Engineer I, began a PowerPoint presentation. The first slide described the “Big Picture”, beginning with the EPA, then MODNR, MSD & finally, the city/municipality. Spencer explained that every city is required to participate in Minimum Control Measures (MCM) via the adoption of an Ordinance and a report has to be submitted annually to MSD stating that the required MCM have been followed. A slide depicting the MCM was shown and which ones the City is responsible for.
Josh Corson asked about maintenance.
Spencer indicated that MSD has an inspection program.
Louis Clayton informed the members that the City has recently required site plan recording with the County for projects that include permanent BMPs and that inspections every 3 years to be sure the system is properly operating are required.
Spencer stated that MSD has new legislation regarding water quality standards.
Slides depicting siltation measures were shown.
Spencer indicated that grading and mitigation plans are reviewed by both the Planning and Public Works Departments.
A brief discussion regarding the use of salt during the winter ensued. It was noted that the amount of salt used on the roads has decreased over the years and that the use of salt before the storm lessens the amount needed to be effective.
The Van Zants presented a sample of the treated barn wood (tongue and groove) to the members, stating that it comes in standard width and sizes and contains a clear commercial protectant covering. Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if the planks are typical sized.
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Mr. Van Zant indicated that they can be cut to any size. A sample was presented.
Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if they have used this wood at other locations.
Mr. Van Zant indicated that they’ve used it in Indianapolis and Kansas City.
Susan Istenes asked if it was used inside or outside in Indianapolis.
Mr. Van Zant replied “inside”; noting that their Indianapolis location is a historic district.
Sherry Eisenberg asked if the area is recessed.
Mr. Van Zant indicated that it is recessed slightly.
Josh Corson asked if the wood goes all the way down.
Mr.Van Zant replied “yes”.
Josh Corson asked if the trim will remain EIFS.
Mr. Van Zant replied “yes”. He stated that the EIFS appears to have been damaged, so they plan to paint all the exposed EIFS a purplish-black color called “Bohemian Black”.
Chairman Lichtenfeld noted that sheet AE12 says EIFS to remain as is.
Mr.Van Zant indicated that’s what they had planned until they looked at it otodya.
Josh Corson asked why the two different windows.
Mr. Van Zant indicated that they want to keep the bar area more protected.
Sherry Eisenberg asked what happens around the corner.
Mr. Van Zant stated that there will be a faux beam to match the corner.
A discussion ensued about the windows and/or lack thereof.
Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if the garage door window will allow for walk-up service.
Mr. Van Zant replied “not in this capacity”.
Chairman Lichtenfeld noted there are no tables adjacent to that window.
Van Zant replied “not in this capacity”. Chairman Lichtenfeld noted there are no tables adjacent to that window.
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Mr. Van Zant concurred, noting that it is the reception stand. He noted that the awnings will be replaced with logo awnings and that a cup and crown is their symbol in white on a black awning. He then asked about painting the brick to match the EIFS.
Craig Owens asked if there is brick behind the EIFS.
Mr. Van Zant indicated that he believes there is.
Ron Reim commented that nobody knows what the brick looks like underneath.
Chairman Lichtenfeld stated that he has reservations about the use of a black color as it could be depressing. He asked that they reconsider the use of that color.
Mr. Van Zant indicated that he’s not sold on that black color anyway, but the white EIFS does not wear well.
Josh Corson stated that he thinks the black would work on the front but not the side.
Chairman Lichtenfeld commented that there would be less black on the front.
Mr. Van Zant presented a picture of the black color as it is used on the interior of another location.
Chairman Lichtenfeld stated that it looks blue.
Mr. Van Zant indicated that it depends on the lighting.
Ron Reim suggested the applicants modify their plans and come back.
Mr. Van Zant asked when they would be able to re-appear before this Board.
Susan Istenes replied “November 16th”.
Chairman Lichtenfeld agreed with Ron. He stated that there’s a difference between what he sees and what is being described.
Craig Owens added that he would like to know what the doors/windows being proposed are as well.
Chairman Lichtenfeld informed the applicants that it is not this Board’s intention to delay them; that this Board needs to see the complete “package” as is being requested.
Mr. Van Zant asked if they could be placed on the November 2nd agenda.
A brief discussion regarding the use of salt during the winter ensued. It was noted that the amount of salt used on the roads has decreased over the years and that the use of salt before the storm lessens the amount needed to be effective.
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Susan Istenes asked Spencer to explain SWPPP (Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan).
Spencer stated that a SWPPP is required for all project sites that are over 5,000 square feet and a Land Disturbance Permit is also required for all project sites that are 1 acre or more. He stated that MSD reviews all SWPPPs and conducts the inspections.
Chairman Lichtenfeld thanked Spencer for the information.
Spencer stated that changes are coming.
Being no further question or comments, this meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
________________________________ Recording Secretary