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April 6, 2015 — Meeting Minutes
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CITY PLAN COMMISSION/ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
APRIL 6, 2015
The City Plan Commission/Architectural Review Board of the City of Clayton, Missouri, met upon the above date at 5:30 p.m. Upon roll call, the following responded:
Present: Chairman Steve Lichtenfeld Craig Owens, City Manager Mark Winings, Aldermanic Representative Jim Liberman Ron Reim Sally Cohn Josh Corson
Absent: None
Also Present: Susan M. Istenes, AICP, Planning Director Louis Clayton, Planner Kevin O’Keefe, City Attorney
Chairman Lichtenfeld noted that there are a number of reviews associated with the projects on this agenda, so time will be limited. He indicated that the applicants will first present their proposals and noted that conceptual review of the Vanguard proposal previously took place. He asked that everyone who wishes to address the Commission to step up to the podium and speak loudly and clearly and to be sure that the green light on the microphone is on for proper recording. He also asked that all cell phone ringers be muted and that conversations take place outside the meeting room.
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The minutes of the March 2, 2015 meeting were presented for approval. Sally Cohn asked for the following changes/clarifications be made: Page 3, change sentence (middle of page) to read: “Sally Cohn commented that currently it contains no plants and is a large mulched basin” and Page 7 change sentence (toward top of page) to read: “Sally Cohn mentioned the 17’ X 17’ outdoor space. She noted the Maple Trees appear to be planted on 4-foot centers, but these trees, if given a chance, would be 15-foot wide.” The minutes were then approved, as amended, after having been previously distributed to each member.
Sally Cohn asked for the following changes/clarifications be made: Page 3, change sentence (middle of page) to read: “Sally Cohn commented that currently it contains no plants and is a large mulched basin” and Page 7 change sentence (toward top of page) to read: “Sally Cohn mentioned the 17’ X 17’ outdoor space. She noted the Maple Trees appear to be planted on 4-foot centers, but these trees, if given a chance, would be 15-foot wide.” The minutes were then approved, as amended, after having been previously distributed to each member.
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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW – MONUMENT SIGN – 7700 DAVIS DRIVE (CENTRAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH)
Tyler Stephens, project architect, was in attendance at the meeting.
Louis Clayton indicated that the applicant proposes to replace an existing V-shaped monument sign located near the intersection of Hanley Road and Davis Drive with a two sided, 18- square-foot ground sign to be located on the west side of the sidewalk, oriented perpendicular to Hanley Road attached to a six-foot tall stone wall base. A three-foot stone wall of the same design is proposed on the east side of the sidewalk on private property. The proposed sign panel is made of black aluminum and will contain the name of the church in white, internally illuminated cut out letters. A mulched landscape bed is proposed in the area around the sign and will include Boxwood and Variegated Iris plantings. Section 425.060 of the Sign Regulations addresses ground signs as follows:
A ground sign not to exceed twenty-five (25) square feet in area depicting the name of the building or names of not more than five (5) major tenants, each of which occupies a significant portion of the building, may be erected in lieu of any permitted wall sign, provided the ground sign is designed as a compatible and integral part of a landscaped area or plaza and the size, location, design and construction materials are approved by the Architectural Review Board.
Louis noted that the size of the proposed ground sign is below the permitted size for ground signs and is proportional to the building. The proposed stone wall base incorporates architectural elements from the building and the sign panel is constructed of high quality materials. The sign is located in a landscaped area as required. Staff is of the opinion that the proposed sign meets the requirements of the Sign Regulations as it pertains to ground signs. The three-foot stone wall on the east side of the sidewalk is permitted with the approval of the Architectural Review Board. This design will complement the adjacent entry feature found on Davis Drive. Louis stated that staff’s recommendation is to approve as submitted.
Mr. Stephens began a PowerPoint presentation. A site plan was presented showing the location of the existing sign which would be replaced by the new sign. Mr. Stephens noted that the proposed sign is more updated and in keeping with the work recently completed on the property. Slides depicting elevation drawings were presented. He noted that the actual lettering font may differ from that shown on the slide, but the size is accurate.
A slide depicting the landscape plan associated with the sign was shown.
Mr. Stephens noted that the sidewalk is entirely on private (church) property.
Mr. Stephens noted that the sidewalk is entirely on private (church) property.
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Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if the internally lit sign will be seen from the north and south.
Mr. Stephens replied “yes”.
Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if the sign will contain sermon information.
Mr. Stephens replied “no”.
Mark Winings asked how large the existing sign is.
Mr. Stephens indicated that the square footage meets the ordinance regulations at 4 X 6.5 feet.
Mark Winings asked the size of the structure.
Mr. Stephens replied that it is well over his head; close to 7 feet. He emphasized that the sign panel is the 25 square feet; the structure itself is larger.
Jim Liberman stated that he would like staff to approve logo (font) and language changes.
Mr. Stephens stated that there are no 3D effects or spinning letters or anything like that.
Sally Cohn asked how wide the strip is between the sidewalk and curb.
Mr. Stephens replied “about 10 feet”.
Sally Cohn asked about the size of the planting bed.
Mr. Stephens stated it is 7 X 10 or 8 X 10 thereabouts.
Sally Cohn commented that there will be a lot of mulch there in the winter.
Mr. Stephens agreed.
Sally Cohn asked if they would consider adding monkey grass or liriope.
Mr. Stephens indicated that he is sure the church would be willing to do that.
Craig Owens stated that the sign looks good and that he is excited about its setback from Hanley Road. He asked the purpose of the wall on the east side of the sidewalk; noting that it may “catch” somebody using the sidewalk.