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August 1, 2016 — Meeting Minutes

This document is the transcript-style minutes of the City of Clayton City Plan Commission/Architectural Review Board meeting held August 1, 2016. It covers presentations and discussion of a proposed mixed-use/parking development (including references to zoning, the Clayton Plaza Overlay District, parking reductions, underground parking, and building heights), neighborhood meetings and design changes, and public/commission questions about site layout and pedestrian circulation. The excerpts record specific project changes mentioned by presenters (removal of about 120 surface parking spaces, adding more underground parking, lowering parking-structure heights, and plans for Lyle to be a full-service road with metered parking) and include commissioners’ and attendees’ comments and questions, but do not show any formal votes or final decisions in the sampled pages.
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So tonight, what I think I 20 would like to do, maybe not be here until midnight is 21 focus our attention on the SDD, go through a pretty 22 thorough presentation of the SDD, which we'll be 23 re-presenting again, per our advertisement last week, 24 that we're adding the 7620 property to our zoning 25 request and then tonight, when we get to the Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

21 1 subdistrict sections, I would like to take those one by 2 one and just begin the process of what will become a 3 very laborious, detailed, you know, thorough process of 4 vetting for each of those projects and then if people 5 want to have more questions in detail about those, of 6 course, we can present them. 7 So our intention is to be here for a 8 process that is going to be a lengthy process, a 9 transparent process and a process where everybody gets 10 to ask whatever questions they want. They might not 11 always like the answers but we'll always answer the 12 questions honestly. So with that, I think we're just 13 going to launch off into the SDD. 14 Is that a good -- can I ask one technical 15 question? Will -- because the agenda has five 16 different sections or something like that. Will we be 17 stopping and asking, having a comment period for each 18 part or should I do the whole presentation? 19 THE CHAIRMAN: Well, the public hearing is 20 only on the SDD. 21 MR. CLARK: Okay. Okay. That's great. 22 So okay, great. Good enough. So one thing, one thing 23 before I really get started in the whole thing, also is 24 that as a community, Clayton has excelled at 25 communication, at the way that they have set their Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

I 24 was the developer of Shaw Park Plaza, which I think 25 holds up as one of the finest office projects in the Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

19 1 community. I was also the original developer and then 2 the builder of the Plaza, a project that I am very, 3 very proud of and I said in 50 years would stand the 4 test of time and I think it's well on its way to doing 5 that and then we also did Centene Plaza in 2010, so we 6 have had significant representation in the area. 7 You know, one of the best parts about this 8 project is to be able to do something like this with a 9 person like Michael Neidorff. Michael Neidorff has 10 been a champion for the St. Louis community, for 11 Clayton. 12 I can't think of a better civic example of 13 the kind of person that we want to be growing their 14 business in St. Louis and in the State of Missouri and 15 I just want to personally say that to me, he embodies 16 everything about what we want in a leader in a 17 community and I personally look up to him very much. 18 So I just want to say that. 19 So we did agree with the City staff in our 20 many, many meetings that this is a lot to swallow in 21 one meeting or maybe two meetings or maybe six meetings 22 or eight and so we're committed to a transparent 23 process, which I am going to walk through and we're not 24 asking for a vote tonight. You know, voting will 25 happen when the City decides that it's ready to vote Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

You know, voting will 25 happen when the City decides that it's ready to vote Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

20 1 and when the Planning Commission and the ARB decide to 2 vote. We are breaking the project into pieces for the 3 very purpose of being able to digest what we know is a 4 really large, exciting project in the community. 5 So the SDD, I'm going to reiterate what 6 was said by staff. The SDD really sets the parameters 7 as we understand it, for the big picture. For the 8 development that Centene needs to be able to rely on as 9 they have relied on their Master Plan, in their current 10 plans, in their current building. 11 And so the SDD really is a global view of 12 the project that we understand sets heights, setbacks, 13 the definition of the project, if you will and then the 14 subdistricts are where we'll really get into a 15 substantial amount of detail for the Planning 16 Commission, for the residents, for the neighbors, for 17 the other businesses and for the ARB. 18 And in those presentations, we're going to 19 go through a lot of detail. So tonight, what I think I 20 would like to do, maybe not be here until midnight is 21 focus our attention on the SDD, go through a pretty 22 thorough presentation of the SDD, which we'll be 23 re-presenting again, per our advertisement last week, 24 that we're adding the 7620 property to our zoning 25 request and then tonight, when we get to the Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

So one thing, one thing 23 before I really get started in the whole thing, also is 24 that as a community, Clayton has excelled at 25 communication, at the way that they have set their Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

22 1 governance up, the way they set their processes up and 2 particularly, the neighborhoods, the people who live in 3 the community and the people who do business here, have 4 come to rely on a really steady master planning 5 process. 6 And the City of Clayton has an 7 extraordinary website. Not every city in America, 8 especially the ones that we work in, I can tell you 9 this is the best one that we've seen, has access for 10 everybody in the public to get lots of detailed 11 information. 12 I would encourage the neighbors to 13 experience the website, by going and looking at the 14 strategic plan and then all of the Master Plans are in 15 the website, which we went back and looked at, before 16 we even drew one line on a piece of paper. 17 And I'm going to walk you through what led 18 us to some of the design decisions that we made and how 19 we came to rely on, back in 2008, when Centene made the 20 final decision to locate their headquarters in Clayton 21 and now, as we've decided to expand the campus here. 22 The guiding principles and the goals and 23 I'm not going to read all of these details but if you 24 read the strategic initiatives of the City, it's to 25 increase density in downtown Clayton and other Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

Not every city in America, 8 especially the ones that we work in, I can tell you 9 this is the best one that we've seen, has access for 10 everybody in the public to get lots of detailed 11 information. 12 I would encourage the neighbors to 13 experience the website, by going and looking at the 14 strategic plan and then all of the Master Plans are in 15 the website, which we went back and looked at, before 16 we even drew one line on a piece of paper. 17 And I'm going to walk you through what led 18 us to some of the design decisions that we made and how 19 we came to rely on, back in 2008, when Centene made the 20 final decision to locate their headquarters in Clayton 21 and now, as we've decided to expand the campus here. 22 The guiding principles and the goals and 23 I'm not going to read all of these details but if you 24 read the strategic initiatives of the City, it's to 25 increase density in downtown Clayton and other Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

23 1 appropriate areas, to implement the Downtown Master 2 Plan and to develop an economic incentive program that 3 attracts startups and entrepreneurs. Centene is a 4 startup, believe it or not and one of the fastest 5 growing in America. 6 So this is -- I know I am telling the 7 Planning and ARB a lot of information they already 8 know, so I hope you will just be patient but this is 9 basically the CBD of Clayton. 10 This is a plan that's been in place since 11 the '40s and '50s and expanded on in '58, 1977, so on 12 and so forth and it very much called for residential 13 single-family home kind of neighborhoods on the 14 perimeters and it called for a very strong downtown CBD 15 district right here. 16 And I think that this slide is set up to 17 represent that our project, while it is a big and 18 significant project for the community, it's always been 19 the wish and dream and hope of the Master Plan as we 20 understand it, to expand here, in this direction and 21 that this project is not enormous in the overall fabric 22 of the CBD. 23 This is a picture of the whole entire CBD 24 as it was envisioned and in real life and then it 25 includes some of our projects that would be great Concannon & Jaeger St. Louis, Missouri (314) 421-1000

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