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June 18, 2018 — Meeting Minutes
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Chairman Lichtenfeld solicited audience comments. None were received.
6 Joanne Boulton made note of the following conditions discussed during the presentation as follows: 1) no illumination on the signs facing the alley or Centene Center; add retail to SD2c and SD3, and that the monument signs can be 12-feet as requested; however, the monument signs for the auditorium will be designed and approved separately.
Susan Istenes reminded the members that they need to include the allowance of up to nine tenant panels if that is what the Board wants.
Anna Krane reminded the members of staff recommendation regarding the blade signs for the retail tenants, asking if the Board is okay with what was presented by the applicant.
Joanne Boulton asked if what was presented this evening is the same as what was presented at the last meeting.
Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt informed the Board that the proposed blade signs are no greater than 3 square feet.
Joanne Boulton referenced the remaining two staff recommendations as follows: 1) add a note on the summary page that a Sign Permit must be obtained for all new or replacement signs prior to installation and 2) add a note that Architectural Review Board approval is required for Interior Wall Graphic signage prior to application for a Sign Permit.
Mr. Gaidis asked for clarification:
Anna Krane read the following conditions as she understands them to be: include staff recommendations except remove the 10-foot maximum [thereby allowing the 12-foot tall as requested]; add no lit signs along alleys or interior of site; add retail option of blade signs maximum of 3-square feet; additional option of retail signs to SD2c; add clarification that the monument sign for the auditorium requires ARB approval; allow up to 9 tenant panels on the monument signs.
Joanne Boulton voiced the need to include the addition of an option of retail signs to SD3 in the motion as well.
Hearing no further questions or comments, Ron Reim made a motion to approve per the revised conditions as outlined above. The motion was seconded by William Liebermann and unanimously approved by the Board.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT – WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY SOUTH 40 CAMPUS – 6500 FORSYTH BOULEVARD
Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt indicated that each will contain a number but not the street name.
4 Chairman Lichtenfeld asked what happens for buildings with multiple addresses (for example, SD1).
Mr. Gaidis indicated that they will likely use 7676 Forsyth even though it is on Carondelet to let people know it’s a Forsyth address {vehicle drop-off side is on the Carondelet side, but it’s for the 7676 Forsyth address}.
Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if there are any provisions for moving/flashing signs.
It was noted that it is believed that moving/flashing signs are prohibited.
A discussion ensued about retail signage. Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt stated that there are two types of retail; tower and parking. She presented slides depicting proposed retail signage. She noted that the tower metal signage will not be illuminated, even though the plans indicate that they will be. She reiterated that the primary signage for the parking retail will be the awning signs (all awnings will be navy) and wall signs again, won’t be illuminated. In addition, the parking retail tenants will have the opportunity for window graphics (limited to 15% of glass area).
Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if all window graphics will be vinyl and no etching in the glass.
Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt replied “yes” emphasizing that there will be no etching in the glass. She informed the members that any tenant who would like to use internal signage would have to receive Centene and City approval before installation.
Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt presented a map highlighting just the retail signage locations. She stated that they will add retail signage for SD2c to the plan.
Rendering slides were shown. Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt announced that Straub’s is not a real tenant for this project.
Craig Owens asked if there will be retail for SD2c, as it is not shown.
Mr. Gaidis replied yes.
Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt began presenting the monument signs and presented a slide. She stated they are 12-feet tall by 10-inches deep; constructed of fabricated metal with recessed areas on the side and LED lighting on the perimeter edge on both sides that will correspond to the building color which will help for wayfinding in the evening. She stated that the letter on each sign will correspond with the letter of the building and each will be up-lit from the ground. She then presented a slide depicting the existing 14-foot size at Centene Plaza. For comparison purposes, a slide depicting a 10-foot tall monument sign (as staff is requesting) was shown. She again asked that the ARB approve the signs as requested at 12 feet in height.
For comparison purposes, a slide depicting a 10-foot tall monument sign (as staff is requesting) was shown. She again asked that the ARB approve the signs as requested at 12 feet in height.
5 Tim Gaidis stated that having the extra 2 feet allows people to see the information better and the tenant names don’t then appear “squished” on the sign face.
Chairman Lichtenfeld asked if there will always be room for nine tenant names.
Mr. Gaidis replied “yes”; indicating that they would begin filling in tenant names from the top.
Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt commented that she believes that SD1 contains nine major tenant spaces and that’s the reason for the nine tenant spaces on the sign.
Susan Istenes reminded the members that the City’s Sign Regulations only allow for five tenant spaces per monument sign, so if this Board is inclined to allow more than five, it should be noted as such.
Chairman Lichtenfeld commented that he finds the 10-foot sign {per the rendering/slide} to be “squatty” and believes the 12-foot sign has the best solid-to-void ratio. He added that the new tower is taller than the existing tower and that he likes the proportion of the 12-foot sign better.
Joanne Boulton agreed with the Chairman regarding the tower; however, with regard to the monument sign for the auditorium on the Carondelet side, she has concern and doesn’t think it works.
Mr. Gaidis stated that it could be augmented when that particular sign comes up for specific review, as it may scale differently on the Carondelet side.
Joanne Boulton asked if the only lighting for the monument signs include the identification letters and the sign sides.
Ms. Kuhlmann-Leavitt reminded Joanne that the monument signs will be up-lit from the ground as well.
Chairman Lichtenfeld stated that he agrees with Joanne’s comment that a 12-foot sign is probably too big for the auditorium on the Carondelet side.
It was agreed that the ground/monument sign for the auditorium will be determined at a later date and that nine tenant panels would be acceptable.
Joanne Boulton commented that she does not like the idea of nine tenant panels.
Chairman Lichtenfeld solicited audience comments.
None were received.
The motion was seconded by William Liebermann and unanimously approved by the Board. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT – WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY SOUTH 40 CAMPUS – 6500 FORSYTH BOULEVARD
7 Rob Wild, Dean of Students and J.D. Long, Associate Vice-Chancellor/Facilities Planning & Management, were in attendance at the meeting. Also in attendance was Cheryl Adelstein, Wash U government community relations.
Susan Istenes explained that in 2010, a CUP was approved to govern the South 40 campus. Conditions of the CUP included a maximum number of beds of 3,300 and a temporary parking waiver of 195 parking spaces to allow a total of 905 parking spaces. The temporary parking waiver was based on the parking requirement for 3,000 beds and the CUP required that the waiver was revisited once a population of 3,300 students was reached. Washington University is now requesting an amendment to the existing CUP to increase the number of beds allowed and to solidify the parking waiver. The University is requesting to increase the maximum bed count by 500 to 3,800. The University states that this increase in bed count is needed due to the desire to have all freshman and sophomore students reside on campus. The increased number of beds would be added over the course of the next 20 years with the phased re-development of the South 40 campus. Some existing rooms that are left vacant will be occupied and additional rooms will be added as residence halls are redeveloped. Since the last CUP was granted in 2010, the South 40 campus has reached maximum occupancy of 3,300 beds, which triggers the CUP condition to revisit the temporary parking waiver. The University has also changed the parking policy. Freshmen and sophomores are no longer able to have cars on campus. The University has also implemented a zone permit parking system. Only yellow and red permitted cars are allowed to park on the South 40 Campus. Yellow permits are for undergraduate students, junior standing or higher, that live in University owned housing. Red permits are for employees. The new University parking policy means the vehicles parked on South 40 campus are no longer directly connected to the number of beds on South 40 campus. For dormitory buildings, the Zoning Regulations require 1 parking space for each 3 beds. Based on the proposed bed count of 3,800, the University would be required to provide 1,267 spaces. The University is proposing to provide 901 parking spaces on the South 40 campus resulting in a waiver request of 366 spaces. The University is asking that this waiver be permanent and has provided a parking study prepared by CBB transportation engineers and planners, to support this request. The parking study indicates that there are currently 901 parking spaces on the South 40 campus available for use. The study found that peak parking demand occurred at 12:00 p.m. with 459 spaces occupied or 51 percent. The study concluded that the current peak parking demand ratio is approximately 0.139 parked vehicles per bed (based on the 3,300 existing beds). A parking supply ratio of 0.155 to 0.164 parking spaces per bed is recommended by CBB to maintain a supply cushion. CBB also recommends that the parking conditions should be re-evaluated if any University parking policies change. The University is proposing the option of a two-story parking structure to provide an additional 100 parking spaces for a total of 1,001 parking spaces on the South 40 campus. The University would replace the existing surface parking lot located at the southeast corner, adjacent to the First Congregational Church, with a two-story parking structure. If the structure is required, the parking waiver would be lowered to 266 parking spaces. The University provided proposed design plans for the parking structure; however, architectural review would be required prior to construction, so the plans provided are conceptual. The request to increase the maximum number of beds will increase the density of the student housing use on the South 40 campus. Many of the additional 500 beds would
The request to increase the maximum number of beds will increase the density of the student housing use on the South 40 campus. Many of the additional 500 beds would
8 be located in existing buildings and the creation of new beds would take place along with development of replacement buildings. The 3,800 beds represent the total number projected after completion of the phased development of the South 40 over the next 20 years. The University is proposing to first renovate buildings and use vacant rooms, which would result in the immediate addition of 113 beds. Staff is of the opinion that the additional beds are reasonable in relation to the campus plan and appropriate given the location and design of the buildings. No new buildings are proposed at this time. The University has proposed an additional parking deck as an option for the parking waiver; however, details of the project will be reviewed should it be deemed necessary. The increase in beds is not expected to cause an increase in vehicle trips because the beds will be for freshmen and sophomores, who are not allowed to have cars on campus. The University zone permit parking system also limits the number of cars parking on the South 40 campus. The City’s parking requirements for the South 40 campus are one parking space for every three beds. Based on the proposed 3,800 beds, a total of 1,267 parking spaces would be required on site. The Board of Aldermen have the authority to grant parking waivers in conjunction with a conditional use permit. The applicant is requesting a parking waiver for 366 spaces to maintain 901 parking spaced on the South 40 campus. The University’s parking policy does not allow freshmen and sophomores to have cars on campus. The policy also outlines a zone parking permit system, which only allows employees assigned to the South 40 campus and upperclassmen living in University housing to park on the South 40 campus. CBB completed a parking study of the area and determined that there is sufficient supply to meet current demand. The study still compares adequate supply and a recommended cushion to the number of beds on campus, as the City code reads; however, the number of cars parking on South 40 is no longer related to the number of beds. The CBB study finds that the number of parking spaces on the South 40 is also sufficient in relation to the demand for parking based on the number of parking permits issued for that zone. Staff supports the request for a parking waiver given the current University parking policy but recommends limiting the number of zone 4 permits issued for parking on the South 40 campus. CBB recommends that a 10 to 15 percent supply cushion is provided in parking areas to allow adequate function. If a 10 percent supply cushion was subtracted from the proposed parking supply, it would result in the maximum demand. Because the University will no longer be allocating parking permits based on the student population of the South 40 campus, staff proposes to regulate permits based on the existing supply. If a maximum of 811 parking permits are allowed for the South 40 campus, then the 901 parking spaces would provide adequate supply with the cushion as recommended by CBB. Staff also recommends that any change in the parking policy should require a new parking study. Staff is of the opinion that the increased number of beds will not impact transit movements on abutting streets because the increased student density will not also result in an increased number of vehicles. Staff is of the opinion that the proposed amendments will not significantly increase demand on fire and police protection services. The University has already begun work on a new fire lane to provide additional access to buildings on the South 40 campus per requirements by the Fire Department. The University has described a policy of notifying neighbors in advance of campus activities that may generate additional noise. This policy should continue. The increase in maximum number of beds could result in an increase of noise levels on campus; however, the existing buffers around the campus will remain. Staff is not aware of recent or on-going nuisance related complaints of adjacent neighbors in relation to the South 40